Driving Force

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  One of the biggest complete 180 contradictions in the SAME ARTICLE, in the 9/15 study wt "Is your conscience a reliable guide?".

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. beliefs

  if you actually turn your brain on and process what is being said, this article keeps contradicting itself.

  "jehovah god created humans with free will, that is, the liberty to choose between one option and another.neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness.

  a christian needs to remember the biblical command to keep abstaining from .

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  The best summary I ever heard was by Douglas Adams in the "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"

  "Because"
  
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  "Sorry, sister; but the CO said he isn't going to visit anyone durind the Special Week."

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
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  third post about the big disappointments that woke me up.

  i'm writing them in no particular order.

  these episodes made me bitter when they happened.

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  Good for you. You made the right decision.

  On one occasion when the CO and his wife were to lunch, I offered wine to the CO, he promptly refuse and indignantly mumbled something about sacred service. The manner in which he did this was so belittling, it upset his wife so that she turned round to me and said "I would love a glass of wine with my lunch".

  So I could drink a nice wine with the COs wife and he just looked on. Anyway after that this CO never treated me with much respect.
  
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  If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?

  by Truthexplorer in

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  do the lottery.

  celebrate my child's birthday.

  sign workmates birthday cards.

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  As a witness I use to secretly watch porn and then get a bad conscience, I was hooked, of course never looked to the elders for help.

  Anyway now I know this prohibition is just another form of abuse from the WTBS and I will not be struck down during the big A just for watching, it no longer has the appeal. I hardly ever watch porn now, cured, well almost.
  

  What else did I do, got pissed occasionally, now more often, and its fun.
  
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  Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

  by Dunedain in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there were always all types of speakers in the org.

  myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

  other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

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  This is a story I heard.

  There was a brother visiting to give his Sunday Public Talk. After the song and prayer he got up to give his talk, but it was quite clear to everybody in the congregation that his flies were open. At attendant immediately got up and approached the speaker to inform him. The very embarrassed speaker turned around to fasten his flies and bent down slightly to do so, catching his tie in the zipper.
  
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  Jonestown Survivor Quote

  by cappytan in

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  "...when our own thoughts are forbidden, when our questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished; when contacts & friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused for an end that never justifies its means.

  when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.

  when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult.

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  Thats deeply moving. I have to print that on a visiting card and on the other side of the card links to Apostate sites and give them to every JW I meet.
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  Even dogs suffer from cognitive dissonance.

  by Driving Force in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaiyhxmnbik

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaiYhxmNBIk
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  So sick of the abuse...

  by iwasblind in

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  2. experiences

  i am still serving as an elder but just hanging in there.

  i think their quandry is that they don't see me out in the field, but when they need encouragement and decent prayer they come to me.. i just got off the phone to this poor sister who i have only met twice.

  she is not even in my congregation (her sister is).

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  iwasblind

  Good for you. Continue helping those in need.
  
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  The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  background information.

  i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

  a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

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  The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

  by Driving Force in

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  background information.

  i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

  a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

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  Driving Force

  What does "bttt" mean ?
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  The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  background information.

  i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

  a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

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  Background information
  

  I myself am in full fade mode with an overly active JW wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever. A friend who is not a JW nor has ever been a JW; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped. His wife is an overly zealous JW and his wife and my wife are in the same congregation.
  

  We get together from time to time and discuss what has been happening with our cult wives. So his wife was given a part on the meeting about apostates, which is really an evil thing to do from the congregation because they know of the contact we have. This is part of their strategy to drive a wedge between him and his wife, this infuriated him and so he called one of the national newspapers (Bild Zeitung) and mentioned some of the evilness/hypocracy of the WTBS. Specifically he mentioned how the R&F are being coerced into donating funds and the WTBS are then investing in the stock market, in particular companies dealing in weapons. (There is a thread on this.) The newspaper wants more information.
  

  He then called the public prosecutor and mentioned the same things, the public prosecutor is very interested in learning more. This occurred in Germany.

  I shall keep you posted if anything comes of this, and I personally will be very active in providing information to the public prosecutor.